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		<title>By: Banned Books Bullshit, Year 4 &#171; Agnostic, Maybe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] installments of Banned Book Bullshit: 2009, 2010, 2011.  Share this with others:DiggEmailPrintLike this:LikeBe the first to like [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Banned Book Bullshit, Revisited &#171; Agnostic, Maybe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] post is somewhat related to my previous blog entry, Banned Book Bullshit, that I wrote back in 2009. At least, I feel this entry is a good companion piece. -A] Share this [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Banned Book Week 2010 &#171; Agnostic, Maybe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banned Book Week 2010 &#171; Agnostic, Maybe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] any rate, I was re-reading what I wrote last year at this time, an entry entitled “Banned Book Bullshit”. Oddly enough, even with the difference of a year’s experience, I stand by what I wrote. I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] any rate, I was re-reading what I wrote last year at this time, an entry entitled “Banned Book Bullshit”. Oddly enough, even with the difference of a year’s experience, I stand by what I wrote. I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Mighty Wind &#171; Agnostic, Maybe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in this country; I concede that there are people who wish to remove materials from the library (as written about in a previous post); and I will concede that there are (especially this year) many libraries that suffer from funding [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in this country; I concede that there are people who wish to remove materials from the library (as written about in a previous post); and I will concede that there are (especially this year) many libraries that suffer from funding [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/banned-book-bullshit/#comment-194</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would not say that it isn&#039;t a big deal; any restriction on library material is a big deal. For the staff, it creates something they have to treat differently (e.g. shelve in a different location from other books of its type). I think it is more of a matter of someone else putting restrictions upon us. As in, we are limited enough by budgets, we really don&#039;t need additional restrictions on what we can and cannot collect. 

I welcome book challenges because I think that open debate illuminates underlying rationales. It separates the subjective rationales from the objective ones. This is not to say that all subjective rationales are invalid, but just because a book offends a particular personal sensibility does not give reason to move or remove it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not say that it isn&#8217;t a big deal; any restriction on library material is a big deal. For the staff, it creates something they have to treat differently (e.g. shelve in a different location from other books of its type). I think it is more of a matter of someone else putting restrictions upon us. As in, we are limited enough by budgets, we really don&#8217;t need additional restrictions on what we can and cannot collect. </p>
<p>I welcome book challenges because I think that open debate illuminates underlying rationales. It separates the subjective rationales from the objective ones. This is not to say that all subjective rationales are invalid, but just because a book offends a particular personal sensibility does not give reason to move or remove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin (@librarymafia)</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/banned-book-bullshit/#comment-193</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally checked out your blog and so interesting that you would have posted about this -- just wrote about it in an MLIS paper.

The Annoyed Librarian had a post up about this lately as well. I happen to agree with you -- I think ALA et al are making a big self-serving fuss about something that is essentially not a big deal. No one would say that a book that happens to be not available in one particular library is &quot;banned&quot; -- even within our libraries, no one expects any one library location to have EVERYTHING. That&#039;s why we have ILL. And &quot;collection development policies&quot; will exclude things more often than customer complaints.

I actually think patrons should be allowed to challenge books -- isn&#039;t that part of the free speech we&#039;re supposed to be all fired up about? Especially because in 6 out of 7 cases, those challenges DID NOT result in books being removed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally checked out your blog and so interesting that you would have posted about this &#8212; just wrote about it in an MLIS paper.</p>
<p>The Annoyed Librarian had a post up about this lately as well. I happen to agree with you &#8212; I think ALA et al are making a big self-serving fuss about something that is essentially not a big deal. No one would say that a book that happens to be not available in one particular library is &#8220;banned&#8221; &#8212; even within our libraries, no one expects any one library location to have EVERYTHING. That&#8217;s why we have ILL. And &#8220;collection development policies&#8221; will exclude things more often than customer complaints.</p>
<p>I actually think patrons should be allowed to challenge books &#8212; isn&#8217;t that part of the free speech we&#8217;re supposed to be all fired up about? Especially because in 6 out of 7 cases, those challenges DID NOT result in books being removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

(1) I guess market alternatives are not the happiest solution that people would embrace past the public library. I see it as a &#039;next best thing&#039; solution as the material is not simply limited. Yes, this does restrict access for gay teens, but I would hope that a gay advocacy group could step in and cover the difference. It is not from a lack of trying that book is not kept within easy access. 

(2) Perhaps &quot;through the roof&quot; is a bit of an overstatement. But they certainly sold more than they would have without the controversy. It is pretty relative as well; if the book had sold 10 copies, then had a challenge, and sold 10 more copies, that would be an increase of 100%. If it sells more than it would have ordinarily, then it&#039;s a win in my book.

I&#039;m not concerned about library self-censorship as a whole. As an organization with a finite amount of resources, decisions must be made as to what to include or exclude. Under these parameters, I don&#039;t think any librarian would escape criticism as to their choices of materials to add to the collection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your thoughtful comment.</p>
<p>(1) I guess market alternatives are not the happiest solution that people would embrace past the public library. I see it as a &#8216;next best thing&#8217; solution as the material is not simply limited. Yes, this does restrict access for gay teens, but I would hope that a gay advocacy group could step in and cover the difference. It is not from a lack of trying that book is not kept within easy access. </p>
<p>(2) Perhaps &#8220;through the roof&#8221; is a bit of an overstatement. But they certainly sold more than they would have without the controversy. It is pretty relative as well; if the book had sold 10 copies, then had a challenge, and sold 10 more copies, that would be an increase of 100%. If it sells more than it would have ordinarily, then it&#8217;s a win in my book.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not concerned about library self-censorship as a whole. As an organization with a finite amount of resources, decisions must be made as to what to include or exclude. Under these parameters, I don&#8217;t think any librarian would escape criticism as to their choices of materials to add to the collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t completely agree.  

1) The fact that a book is still available misses the point.  Practically no books are truly &quot;banned&quot; in today&#039;s commercial marketplace.  But libraries are places for free access of information, and banning a book there does indeed keep it out of people&#039;s hands--I&#039;m thinking here primarily of books for gay teens.

2) Yes, banning fusses often give a book publicity and sales, but &quot;through the roof&quot; is overstating it.  Of the books on the banned books banner you show, some are &quot;hits&quot; with huge sales (Carrie, Light in the Attic, American Psycho) and some are time-tested classics, but many, maybe even most of them, have never hit a best seller chart.

I&#039;m a little surprised you didn&#039;t bring up the issue of library self-censorship, in the form of selection (and necesary passing over) of books, but I guess that&#039;s a whole other blog post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t completely agree.  </p>
<p>1) The fact that a book is still available misses the point.  Practically no books are truly &#8220;banned&#8221; in today&#8217;s commercial marketplace.  But libraries are places for free access of information, and banning a book there does indeed keep it out of people&#8217;s hands&#8211;I&#8217;m thinking here primarily of books for gay teens.</p>
<p>2) Yes, banning fusses often give a book publicity and sales, but &#8220;through the roof&#8221; is overstating it.  Of the books on the banned books banner you show, some are &#8220;hits&#8221; with huge sales (Carrie, Light in the Attic, American Psycho) and some are time-tested classics, but many, maybe even most of them, have never hit a best seller chart.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little surprised you didn&#8217;t bring up the issue of library self-censorship, in the form of selection (and necesary passing over) of books, but I guess that&#8217;s a whole other blog post.</p>
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