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		<title>By: Karl Drinkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl Drinkwater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a lot of sense here. I&#039;m an author and a librarian, and as such am against DRM (as evidenced by all the posts at http://karldrinkwater.blogspot.com/search/label/DRM !) I am also interested in the issues of e-book lending from libraries (e.g. see http://karldrinkwater.blogspot.com/2012/05/e-book-lending-and-libraries.html) though there are other issues here which I have yet to make my mind up about. The main thing is that the issues are discussed openly, and not left to the decisions and EULAs created by corporations without any consultation with those that love to buy and read books - the readers.

I think one area I&#039;m not so sure about is the area of reselling an e-book. By all means, if someone buys one, it should be theirs forever. Unlike a physical book it takes up no space, so you don&#039;t have to get rid of them every so often (or buy a bigger house, or even rent storage space for them as one author I know does!) I also believe in keeping the price low. However I tend to think of them as an experience rather than a tradeable good. Every one pays for the experience if they want it. A tricky aspect though, and I am not 100% sure where I stand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of sense here. I&#8217;m an author and a librarian, and as such am against DRM (as evidenced by all the posts at <a href="http://karldrinkwater.blogspot.com/search/label/DRM" rel="nofollow">http://karldrinkwater.blogspot.com/search/label/DRM</a> !) I am also interested in the issues of e-book lending from libraries (e.g. see <a href="http://karldrinkwater.blogspot.com/2012/05/e-book-lending-and-libraries.html" rel="nofollow">http://karldrinkwater.blogspot.com/2012/05/e-book-lending-and-libraries.html</a>) though there are other issues here which I have yet to make my mind up about. The main thing is that the issues are discussed openly, and not left to the decisions and EULAs created by corporations without any consultation with those that love to buy and read books &#8211; the readers.</p>
<p>I think one area I&#8217;m not so sure about is the area of reselling an e-book. By all means, if someone buys one, it should be theirs forever. Unlike a physical book it takes up no space, so you don&#8217;t have to get rid of them every so often (or buy a bigger house, or even rent storage space for them as one author I know does!) I also believe in keeping the price low. However I tend to think of them as an experience rather than a tradeable good. Every one pays for the experience if they want it. A tricky aspect though, and I am not 100% sure where I stand.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Publishers need to realize they are competing with the Internet&#8221; &#124;</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/why-the-ebook-readers-bill-of-rights-benefits-authors/#comment-4639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Publishers need to realize they are competing with the Internet&#8221; &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 20:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] files that are out there as best as we can. While working on them, I also like to keep in mind the ebook reader&#8217;s bill of rights that spread around the internet earlier this [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] files that are out there as best as we can. While working on them, I also like to keep in mind the ebook reader&#8217;s bill of rights that spread around the internet earlier this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Will the Kindle win the e-reader war? &#124; Writers without Borders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will the Kindle win the e-reader war? &#124; Writers without Borders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] libraries will probably welcome the announcement as well. Librarian Andy Woodworth wrote recently of the difficulty explaining to a would-be ebook borrower why a book might be incompatible with a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think your logic in connecting the eBook Bill of Rights to people pirating books on eBay is non-existent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your logic in connecting the eBook Bill of Rights to people pirating books on eBay is non-existent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rowena Cherry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rowena Cherry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy,

Have you looked at eBay recently? Sellers --who cheerfully admit that they haven&#039;t read an e-book romance for years and have never heard of half the authors they are ripping off-- are taking your advice to heart, it would seem, and are burning multiple DVDs and CDs for sale in multiple auctions.

On eBay, you can find sellers listing &quot;2010-2011 Bestsellers&quot; and claiming that they own the copyright to these contemporary, recent bestsellers.

I think that you should clarify that what you are suggesting is a wish list, not the current law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Have you looked at eBay recently? Sellers &#8211;who cheerfully admit that they haven&#8217;t read an e-book romance for years and have never heard of half the authors they are ripping off&#8211; are taking your advice to heart, it would seem, and are burning multiple DVDs and CDs for sale in multiple auctions.</p>
<p>On eBay, you can find sellers listing &#8220;2010-2011 Bestsellers&#8221; and claiming that they own the copyright to these contemporary, recent bestsellers.</p>
<p>I think that you should clarify that what you are suggesting is a wish list, not the current law.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona McGier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fiona McGier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To suggest a possible solution, would you be willing to read eBooks that had advertising in them?  Just as in movies, you might find it jarring at first, but if the story was interesting enough, you&#039;d stop noticing.  That way the author would be making something from the advertisers, even if the book is pirated worldwide.  
E-publishers by and large do not pay advances.  The royalties are often paid quarterly, and when third-party sellers take their cut, there is often little left for the publisher and author to divvy up.  Popular authors like Neil Gaiman who even tour doing book-signings, of course have a different opinion on their books being free-reads, from someone like me who is e-published and working 2 p/t jobs to help pay the bills.  I give up sleep to write because I love writing...but then I have to pay for promoting my books because e-publishers don&#039;t.  I spend hours on blogs and chat groups, only to find that other people may be making money off of my work by combining it with other romance books and selling them as a package.

Maybe Josh is right and only amateurs and the wealthy, along with retired folks who don&#039;t need the money, will be able to afford writing.  I wonder what that will do to the quality of what is available?  It will certainly cut down on variety.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To suggest a possible solution, would you be willing to read eBooks that had advertising in them?  Just as in movies, you might find it jarring at first, but if the story was interesting enough, you&#8217;d stop noticing.  That way the author would be making something from the advertisers, even if the book is pirated worldwide.<br />
E-publishers by and large do not pay advances.  The royalties are often paid quarterly, and when third-party sellers take their cut, there is often little left for the publisher and author to divvy up.  Popular authors like Neil Gaiman who even tour doing book-signings, of course have a different opinion on their books being free-reads, from someone like me who is e-published and working 2 p/t jobs to help pay the bills.  I give up sleep to write because I love writing&#8230;but then I have to pay for promoting my books because e-publishers don&#8217;t.  I spend hours on blogs and chat groups, only to find that other people may be making money off of my work by combining it with other romance books and selling them as a package.</p>
<p>Maybe Josh is right and only amateurs and the wealthy, along with retired folks who don&#8217;t need the money, will be able to afford writing.  I wonder what that will do to the quality of what is available?  It will certainly cut down on variety.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Lanyon</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2011/03/08/why-the-ebook-readers-bill-of-rights-benefits-authors/#comment-3842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Lanyon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;And if you were eating dinner with any of those people, I’d confront them on it. You need to put a face on the problem otherwise people do not see the results of their actions. It may not be comfortable, but if you can say, “This actually hurts someone and that someone is ME”, it’s no longer bits and bytes on a computer file. It’s a person, a real live human being.&lt;/em&gt;

Of course. But it isn&#039;t just authors who need to speak up. It&#039;s everyone who finds such creative theft abhorrent. 

Most readers do support the arts and literature by paying for the books they read -- and bless them for it because authors could not continue doing the work they love without the support of readers. But we&#039;re in the midst of a publishing revolution driven by technology, and if writers and quality fiction aren&#039;t to be one of the casualties of this revolution, there has to be serious consideration of the long range effects of viral sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And if you were eating dinner with any of those people, I’d confront them on it. You need to put a face on the problem otherwise people do not see the results of their actions. It may not be comfortable, but if you can say, “This actually hurts someone and that someone is ME”, it’s no longer bits and bytes on a computer file. It’s a person, a real live human being.</em></p>
<p>Of course. But it isn&#8217;t just authors who need to speak up. It&#8217;s everyone who finds such creative theft abhorrent. </p>
<p>Most readers do support the arts and literature by paying for the books they read &#8212; and bless them for it because authors could not continue doing the work they love without the support of readers. But we&#8217;re in the midst of a publishing revolution driven by technology, and if writers and quality fiction aren&#8217;t to be one of the casualties of this revolution, there has to be serious consideration of the long range effects of viral sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your comments and your fair minded and objective approach. I think there can be a &#039;everyone wins&#039; balance where authors get paid, readers get books, and libraries get to collect them for posterity. There isn&#039;t going to be a silver bullet to this problem, but talking about it will move the proverbial football down the field.

And if you were eating dinner with any of those people, I&#039;d confront them on it. You need to put a face on the problem otherwise people do not see the results of their actions. It may not be comfortable, but if you can say, &quot;This actually hurts someone and that someone is ME&quot;, it&#039;s no longer bits and bytes on a computer file. It&#039;s a person, a real live human being. 

In writing the eBook Reader&#039;s Bill of Rights, it was to get the ball rolling on bigger issues than simply libraries and eBooks. It was to get authors, readers, publishers, and everyone between to come to the table and work on a long term solution that helps everyone. There may be a series of perfect solutions, but to get people to talk about it the first step.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments and your fair minded and objective approach. I think there can be a &#8216;everyone wins&#8217; balance where authors get paid, readers get books, and libraries get to collect them for posterity. There isn&#8217;t going to be a silver bullet to this problem, but talking about it will move the proverbial football down the field.</p>
<p>And if you were eating dinner with any of those people, I&#8217;d confront them on it. You need to put a face on the problem otherwise people do not see the results of their actions. It may not be comfortable, but if you can say, &#8220;This actually hurts someone and that someone is ME&#8221;, it&#8217;s no longer bits and bytes on a computer file. It&#8217;s a person, a real live human being. </p>
<p>In writing the eBook Reader&#8217;s Bill of Rights, it was to get the ball rolling on bigger issues than simply libraries and eBooks. It was to get authors, readers, publishers, and everyone between to come to the table and work on a long term solution that helps everyone. There may be a series of perfect solutions, but to get people to talk about it the first step.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Lanyon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Lanyon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an author who gives away hundreds of ebooks. I&#039;m also a book collector (vintage paperbacks) and a devoted supporter of my local library. I have zero problem with my books being shared through Amazon&#039;s kindle program or through a library or even amongst a small group of friends.

But the viral nature of digital content does change some of the ethics of ownership, and I think that does have to be addressed.

Maybe I feel this more keenly because I write in a niche market where the percentage of piracy is higher than perhaps in mainstream. 

I&#039;ve seen threads -- and heard live -- people boasting that they never pay for books. Never. It&#039;s a point of honor with them that they don&#039;t pay for books. I&#039;m not sure where the honor lies in that, but that&#039;s how they view it.

As someone who makes a living writing, that&#039;s distressing when those people follow up such comments by saying they&#039;re a &quot;fan&quot; of my work. 

Yes, you&#039;re right. This is a difficult subject for many of us, and it&#039;s not easy to try and stay objective. We have copyright laws for a reason and much of digital sharing -- at this point in the game -- strikes at the heart of those protections. 

Perhaps we&#039;ve finally reached a point in technology where only amateurs and the wealthy can afford to write.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an author who gives away hundreds of ebooks. I&#8217;m also a book collector (vintage paperbacks) and a devoted supporter of my local library. I have zero problem with my books being shared through Amazon&#8217;s kindle program or through a library or even amongst a small group of friends.</p>
<p>But the viral nature of digital content does change some of the ethics of ownership, and I think that does have to be addressed.</p>
<p>Maybe I feel this more keenly because I write in a niche market where the percentage of piracy is higher than perhaps in mainstream. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen threads &#8212; and heard live &#8212; people boasting that they never pay for books. Never. It&#8217;s a point of honor with them that they don&#8217;t pay for books. I&#8217;m not sure where the honor lies in that, but that&#8217;s how they view it.</p>
<p>As someone who makes a living writing, that&#8217;s distressing when those people follow up such comments by saying they&#8217;re a &#8220;fan&#8221; of my work. </p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right. This is a difficult subject for many of us, and it&#8217;s not easy to try and stay objective. We have copyright laws for a reason and much of digital sharing &#8212; at this point in the game &#8212; strikes at the heart of those protections. </p>
<p>Perhaps we&#8217;ve finally reached a point in technology where only amateurs and the wealthy can afford to write.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It dawned on me today that the issue is about clarification. The reselling I&#039;m talking about is taking my personal copy and selling to another, not packaging it up and redistributing for sale to thousands of people. That&#039;s the interaction I&#039;m talking about. Does it make it clearer? 

What I am finding interesting is the hostility towards the end user (whether it is libraries or readers) that is on display in some of the comments I have received (not yours, mercifully). If I was a reader and read some of the authors comments that were on this post and others, I&#039;d actually stop reading those authors. Because I&#039;d rather not feel like I&#039;m being treated like a potential criminal with every interaction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It dawned on me today that the issue is about clarification. The reselling I&#8217;m talking about is taking my personal copy and selling to another, not packaging it up and redistributing for sale to thousands of people. That&#8217;s the interaction I&#8217;m talking about. Does it make it clearer? </p>
<p>What I am finding interesting is the hostility towards the end user (whether it is libraries or readers) that is on display in some of the comments I have received (not yours, mercifully). If I was a reader and read some of the authors comments that were on this post and others, I&#8217;d actually stop reading those authors. Because I&#8217;d rather not feel like I&#8217;m being treated like a potential criminal with every interaction.</p>
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