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	<title>Comments on: Open Thread Thursday: The Skills to Pay the Bills</title>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 06:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comment, Jennifer! I rely on read-alike lists because my fiction chops aren&#039;t really great. I&#039;m more of a non-fiction person. But I will say that over time I&#039;ve gotten to know which authors are generally associated with others, so it&#039;s been a learning process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Jennifer! I rely on read-alike lists because my fiction chops aren&#8217;t really great. I&#8217;m more of a non-fiction person. But I will say that over time I&#8217;ve gotten to know which authors are generally associated with others, so it&#8217;s been a learning process.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this is who I think this is, I have to say kudos on what was probably the best class I took getting my MLIS. The whole program was fairly theory-heavy but this one tech-y class provided what I&#039;d like to call &quot;stealth theory&quot; - what Dorothea wonderfully calls &quot;learning to learn.&quot;  And really, most librarians who come into contact with patrons eventually need to transfer on some of this stealth theory, the reasoning and MacGyver-ing that allows the patron to a) find the answer or b) better communicate their question.  So: kudos, Dorothea!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is who I think this is, I have to say kudos on what was probably the best class I took getting my MLIS. The whole program was fairly theory-heavy but this one tech-y class provided what I&#8217;d like to call &#8220;stealth theory&#8221; &#8211; what Dorothea wonderfully calls &#8220;learning to learn.&#8221;  And really, most librarians who come into contact with patrons eventually need to transfer on some of this stealth theory, the reasoning and MacGyver-ing that allows the patron to a) find the answer or b) better communicate their question.  So: kudos, Dorothea!</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the mad skills at the desk for which librarians are famous are obviously necessary, I&#039;d like to re-emphasize the importance of &lt;b&gt;people skills&lt;/b&gt;.  It goes beyond being pleasant, efficient, or good at crowd control ... 
Librarians can be as big on advocacy as they want to be, and can sell the public on how great their services are, but a patron who views the library as inconvenient, bothersome, or scary is a patron who &lt;i&gt;will not come back&lt;/i&gt;.  How do I know this?  Maybe I am a bit tougher on what I expect out of my fellow librarians, but I refuse to go to my hometown library nowadays based on multiple experiences of bad service and worse attitudes.  I buy my books now.  Or borrow from friends.  Period.  
I know it is hard to achieve such perfection and harmony when dealing with different people on a day to day basis (coworkers included) but remember: People who get bad service at a fast food joint simply start going to the one down the road.  When you have only 1 library available in your town, what happens? Does it keep us from developing young readers, or good researchers? Do the robots win? 
And I do believe becoming a people person is learned just as you might learn cataloging, or IT skills. Just don&#039;t learn it the hard way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the mad skills at the desk for which librarians are famous are obviously necessary, I&#8217;d like to re-emphasize the importance of <b>people skills</b>.  It goes beyond being pleasant, efficient, or good at crowd control &#8230;<br />
Librarians can be as big on advocacy as they want to be, and can sell the public on how great their services are, but a patron who views the library as inconvenient, bothersome, or scary is a patron who <i>will not come back</i>.  How do I know this?  Maybe I am a bit tougher on what I expect out of my fellow librarians, but I refuse to go to my hometown library nowadays based on multiple experiences of bad service and worse attitudes.  I buy my books now.  Or borrow from friends.  Period.<br />
I know it is hard to achieve such perfection and harmony when dealing with different people on a day to day basis (coworkers included) but remember: People who get bad service at a fast food joint simply start going to the one down the road.  When you have only 1 library available in your town, what happens? Does it keep us from developing young readers, or good researchers? Do the robots win?<br />
And I do believe becoming a people person is learned just as you might learn cataloging, or IT skills. Just don&#8217;t learn it the hard way.</p>
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		<title>By: JenniferMReads</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like Marleah, I worked in a public library for almost a year before beginning the MLIS program. I found a calling: I love working with patrons, teaching them new ways to search for and find information, connecting them with books, chatting with them on their good &amp; bad days. Thus, if it is a public library setting, I think quality customer service is and should remain a top priority.

I graduate in three weeks and, again like Marleah, I have found that the majority of my courses at SJSU have been applied skills rather than theory. I think the biggest plus of my MLIS education was that I was working in a library for the majority of the time (I was laid-off last Nov. due to budget cuts). This allowed me to take what I was learning and immediately put it into practice at my job. If I am offering advice to new students, it would be to work or volunteer while attending school so that you at least see the skills in use if not use them yourself.

Again, for public librarians, I think my most valuable classes were Readers&#039; Advisory for adults and then a 2nd class for teens. This is a skill that is not (yet?) available through a web search. Yes, read-alike lists can be found but this is a personalized service that is built over time. The best RA happens when a librarian gets to know the patron and her/his likes &amp; dislikes. 

Thank you, Andy, for a thought-provoking post. I am reading the comments with interest - and tweaking my resume accordingly!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Marleah, I worked in a public library for almost a year before beginning the MLIS program. I found a calling: I love working with patrons, teaching them new ways to search for and find information, connecting them with books, chatting with them on their good &amp; bad days. Thus, if it is a public library setting, I think quality customer service is and should remain a top priority.</p>
<p>I graduate in three weeks and, again like Marleah, I have found that the majority of my courses at SJSU have been applied skills rather than theory. I think the biggest plus of my MLIS education was that I was working in a library for the majority of the time (I was laid-off last Nov. due to budget cuts). This allowed me to take what I was learning and immediately put it into practice at my job. If I am offering advice to new students, it would be to work or volunteer while attending school so that you at least see the skills in use if not use them yourself.</p>
<p>Again, for public librarians, I think my most valuable classes were Readers&#8217; Advisory for adults and then a 2nd class for teens. This is a skill that is not (yet?) available through a web search. Yes, read-alike lists can be found but this is a personalized service that is built over time. The best RA happens when a librarian gets to know the patron and her/his likes &amp; dislikes. </p>
<p>Thank you, Andy, for a thought-provoking post. I am reading the comments with interest &#8211; and tweaking my resume accordingly!</p>
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		<title>By: nicolibrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicolibrarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree wholeheartedly about deep knowledge of instruction! I&#039;m a semester out of library school and work as an academic reference librarian - all the job postings I see that I&#039;m interested in seek strong instruction skills - and I&#039;m talking about the &quot;telling-aint-training&quot; kind of skills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly about deep knowledge of instruction! I&#8217;m a semester out of library school and work as an academic reference librarian &#8211; all the job postings I see that I&#8217;m interested in seek strong instruction skills &#8211; and I&#8217;m talking about the &#8220;telling-aint-training&#8221; kind of skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably the most valuable course I took in graduate school was one on information seeking behavior. I took it as an elective, but I think it should be a required course for all MLS programs. Right now, I have responsibilities as a cataloger, reference librarian, web designer, and digital resourses manager, and understanding how people go about looking for information is an important part of all these different aspects of my job. Meanwhile, many of the hard skills I learned in library school (less than 10 years ago) are pretty much obsolete.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the most valuable course I took in graduate school was one on information seeking behavior. I took it as an elective, but I think it should be a required course for all MLS programs. Right now, I have responsibilities as a cataloger, reference librarian, web designer, and digital resourses manager, and understanding how people go about looking for information is an important part of all these different aspects of my job. Meanwhile, many of the hard skills I learned in library school (less than 10 years ago) are pretty much obsolete.</p>
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		<title>By: Carleen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carleen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if advocacy would be a good thing to add to this.  That was the one thing I felt very unprepared for after I graduated. I guess frustrated would be a better word, that the rest of the community/campus didn&#039;t seem to understand what I was doing here and what my purpose was.  I just expected them to know and when they didn&#039;t, I spent a great deal of time whining about it instead of being proactive.  From an academic librarian perspective I would see this as a crucial communication skill in terms of being able to collaborate better with other departments on campus (IT, Distance Learning, etc), especially if your on a campus that&#039;s still trying or needs to move towards a more modern campus library model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if advocacy would be a good thing to add to this.  That was the one thing I felt very unprepared for after I graduated. I guess frustrated would be a better word, that the rest of the community/campus didn&#8217;t seem to understand what I was doing here and what my purpose was.  I just expected them to know and when they didn&#8217;t, I spent a great deal of time whining about it instead of being proactive.  From an academic librarian perspective I would see this as a crucial communication skill in terms of being able to collaborate better with other departments on campus (IT, Distance Learning, etc), especially if your on a campus that&#8217;s still trying or needs to move towards a more modern campus library model.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Schiller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas Schiller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 17:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a hybrid job title: I&#039;m a Systems &amp; Instruction librarian. While I don&#039;t have any direct reports, I do have some suggestions for folks w/ traditional library skills who want to expand their skillset outside of their comfort zone.

First: get some web space and set up your own installation of WordPress or Drupal. Wordpress, especially, is relatively simple to get set up and there is a well developed community of people who can support non-technical people in their way to becoming semi-technical people and then full-fledged geeks. Setting up and running WordPress requires one to dip their toes into the world of MySQL, FTP, and using the command line to manage a server. It also offers a training-wheels environment to start learning PHP and CSS.

The key is not that future librarians will be required to run WordPress or Drupal, rather that the diverse range of tools and troubleshooting skills needed to do this will come in handy in a variety of potential job environments.

Second: Search Engine Optimization. I&#039;m not suggesting that librarians need to know how to do web marketing. I am suggesting that mastery of both the theory and skills contained in this document: http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/www.google.com/en/us/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf will kick-start any reference/instruction librarian&#039;s skill set. Understanding the difference between searching a controlled set of well organized metadata and searching an uncontrolled set of heterogeneous documents at an architectural level really gives an edge when helping users connect with their information. I like to say that understanding SEO principles is like having a blue sheet for web search. It is that important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hybrid job title: I&#8217;m a Systems &amp; Instruction librarian. While I don&#8217;t have any direct reports, I do have some suggestions for folks w/ traditional library skills who want to expand their skillset outside of their comfort zone.</p>
<p>First: get some web space and set up your own installation of WordPress or Drupal. WordPress, especially, is relatively simple to get set up and there is a well developed community of people who can support non-technical people in their way to becoming semi-technical people and then full-fledged geeks. Setting up and running WordPress requires one to dip their toes into the world of MySQL, FTP, and using the command line to manage a server. It also offers a training-wheels environment to start learning PHP and CSS.</p>
<p>The key is not that future librarians will be required to run WordPress or Drupal, rather that the diverse range of tools and troubleshooting skills needed to do this will come in handy in a variety of potential job environments.</p>
<p>Second: Search Engine Optimization. I&#8217;m not suggesting that librarians need to know how to do web marketing. I am suggesting that mastery of both the theory and skills contained in this document: <a href="http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/www.google.com/en/us/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/www.google.com/en/us/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf</a> will kick-start any reference/instruction librarian&#8217;s skill set. Understanding the difference between searching a controlled set of well organized metadata and searching an uncontrolled set of heterogeneous documents at an architectural level really gives an edge when helping users connect with their information. I like to say that understanding SEO principles is like having a blue sheet for web search. It is that important.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I&#039;d rather get a mindset than a skillset. I can&#039;t teach the former, I can totally teach the latter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;d rather get a mindset than a skillset. I can&#8217;t teach the former, I can totally teach the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Director of a small/medium sized library (6.5 FTE) - our cusomers need front line staff (and we are all front line staff at some point during the week) who are: comfortable dealing with people; can navigate well in the digital world of circ systems, social media, browsers, apps, wikis, etc; are not afraid to dig and and learn; can troubleshoot a printer/copier problem; and can think on their feet. Oh yes, and know the current crop of bestsellers, sleepers, new titles just in, etc. 

Tall order.. some of this cannot be taught. It&#039;s a mindset.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Director of a small/medium sized library (6.5 FTE) &#8211; our cusomers need front line staff (and we are all front line staff at some point during the week) who are: comfortable dealing with people; can navigate well in the digital world of circ systems, social media, browsers, apps, wikis, etc; are not afraid to dig and and learn; can troubleshoot a printer/copier problem; and can think on their feet. Oh yes, and know the current crop of bestsellers, sleepers, new titles just in, etc. </p>
<p>Tall order.. some of this cannot be taught. It&#8217;s a mindset.</p>
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