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		<title>By: J.</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6956</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2012 16:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A message from Lost Lola -- http://thelostlola.blogspot.com/2012/06/ala-2012-clarification.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A message from Lost Lola &#8212; <a href="http://thelostlola.blogspot.com/2012/06/ala-2012-clarification.html" rel="nofollow">http://thelostlola.blogspot.com/2012/06/ala-2012-clarification.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6913</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the vendors should give out codes that allow you to download eBook versions of the titles?  That way everyone can get a copy!  Once again eBooks saves the day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the vendors should give out codes that allow you to download eBook versions of the titles?  That way everyone can get a copy!  Once again eBooks saves the day.</p>
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		<title>By: clnelson</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6905</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 00:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps ALA SHOULD indeed consider the suggestion to increase the price of &quot;Exhibits Only Attendee&quot; and yes, require these participants to pay that price EACH DAY. Then realistically ALA could reduce the cost of full conference attendees, though I dont really think that will ever happen. GIVE the &quot;Exhibits Only Attendees&quot; a different colored badge for each day to help easily identify them too. My goodness I know attendees who spent an entire day in exhibit hall with a schedule for books and authors instead of sessions. I even stood in line for a friend who wanted a book autographed from Henry Winkler but had a conflict with a meeting, so I stood for her. Sucker me, I even bought her the first of the series since he was only signing the second, though it was just $3. But gosh and darn it, registration was outrageous, and it infuriated me to know that some were &quot;sent&quot; to ALA on there organization&#039;s dime and not their own, and they did not attend a single session, just cruised the exhibit hall looking for freebies, schedule in hand that outlined where and when the books and authors were going to be. My total trip&#039;s bill was footed by none other than ME. 

I agree the exhibit hall around the book vendors is like a feeding frenzy particularly during the first two days. I&#039;ve observed this at both my ALA attendances. It was even a joke among the exhibitors, as I commented one time the noticeable cooler room temp on the side where there were more software and furniture exhibits as opposed to publishers, and the exhibitor quipped that I could go back to the &quot;other side&quot; to warm up since there were so many more people over there. His joke was a poke of fun at the frenzy, and did not insult me in the least, for I knew he was spot on. 

Not sure what the solution is, but as I said in FB, those exhibitors shoving bags in my hand is the ONLY reason I picked up a single book, cuz I knew going in I did not have money to ship them home and I was sticking to my &quot;carry-on&quot; rule. So though I thought - wow, cool, really i can have them free? - I also knew I would be giving them away before going home. I generally take pics of my conference swag, and the sheer fact that I did not take a pic of a single book (other than the Winkler book which I stood in line for as a favor to a friend) shows that the books, while nice, were not a big draw for my exhibit hall attendance. My lone book pic was of a book garnered in a session, and that session gave some EXCELLENT ideas for using it in a middle or high school program--so I kept it.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/c_nelson/sets/72157630321950508/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps ALA SHOULD indeed consider the suggestion to increase the price of &#8220;Exhibits Only Attendee&#8221; and yes, require these participants to pay that price EACH DAY. Then realistically ALA could reduce the cost of full conference attendees, though I dont really think that will ever happen. GIVE the &#8220;Exhibits Only Attendees&#8221; a different colored badge for each day to help easily identify them too. My goodness I know attendees who spent an entire day in exhibit hall with a schedule for books and authors instead of sessions. I even stood in line for a friend who wanted a book autographed from Henry Winkler but had a conflict with a meeting, so I stood for her. Sucker me, I even bought her the first of the series since he was only signing the second, though it was just $3. But gosh and darn it, registration was outrageous, and it infuriated me to know that some were &#8220;sent&#8221; to ALA on there organization&#8217;s dime and not their own, and they did not attend a single session, just cruised the exhibit hall looking for freebies, schedule in hand that outlined where and when the books and authors were going to be. My total trip&#8217;s bill was footed by none other than ME. </p>
<p>I agree the exhibit hall around the book vendors is like a feeding frenzy particularly during the first two days. I&#8217;ve observed this at both my ALA attendances. It was even a joke among the exhibitors, as I commented one time the noticeable cooler room temp on the side where there were more software and furniture exhibits as opposed to publishers, and the exhibitor quipped that I could go back to the &#8220;other side&#8221; to warm up since there were so many more people over there. His joke was a poke of fun at the frenzy, and did not insult me in the least, for I knew he was spot on. </p>
<p>Not sure what the solution is, but as I said in FB, those exhibitors shoving bags in my hand is the ONLY reason I picked up a single book, cuz I knew going in I did not have money to ship them home and I was sticking to my &#8220;carry-on&#8221; rule. So though I thought &#8211; wow, cool, really i can have them free? &#8211; I also knew I would be giving them away before going home. I generally take pics of my conference swag, and the sheer fact that I did not take a pic of a single book (other than the Winkler book which I stood in line for as a favor to a friend) shows that the books, while nice, were not a big draw for my exhibit hall attendance. My lone book pic was of a book garnered in a session, and that session gave some EXCELLENT ideas for using it in a middle or high school program&#8211;so I kept it.  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/c_nelson/sets/72157630321950508/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/c_nelson/sets/72157630321950508/</a></p>
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		<title>By: J Shore (@7shores)</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6903</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t intend to shame her. People that made rude comments on her blog are just as guilty of being rude as she was. 
I dislike revisionist history. She acted. She posted video of that action. Now she&#039;s being held to task by those that feel the action was rude. Removing her nickname doesn&#039;t mean we all forget who it was. You don&#039;t have one of those Men in Black Memory Erasers, do you?
This Blog is editable by Andy and he has already acted. That doesn&#039;t mean I agree. I believe in producing Erratum only when a mistake has been made. For example: if he&#039;d called her Loud Lola instead of Lost Lola. I thoroughly dislike making changes that obscure the historical accuracy of the record. (That&#039;s my pet peeve number 304.) :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t intend to shame her. People that made rude comments on her blog are just as guilty of being rude as she was.<br />
I dislike revisionist history. She acted. She posted video of that action. Now she&#8217;s being held to task by those that feel the action was rude. Removing her nickname doesn&#8217;t mean we all forget who it was. You don&#8217;t have one of those Men in Black Memory Erasers, do you?<br />
This Blog is editable by Andy and he has already acted. That doesn&#8217;t mean I agree. I believe in producing Erratum only when a mistake has been made. For example: if he&#8217;d called her Loud Lola instead of Lost Lola. I thoroughly dislike making changes that obscure the historical accuracy of the record. (That&#8217;s my pet peeve number 304.) <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Librarian</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned Librarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But what do you hope to accomplish? Yes she&#039;s an adult, but do you think shaming her, sending people to her page to post rude comments makes us look good as professionals? A few bad apples being rude can paint all of us as bullies, just as her actions might have unfairly label &quot;all bloggers&quot; as book horders. Just because she might have made a poor decision, I&#039;m sure the kerfuffle has already caused her to wish she hadn&#039;t. Her post brought the issue to light, now let&#039;s move away from acting like butthurt librarians and bullies and deal with the issue at hand: some people (both ALA members/Librarians/nonbrarians) are abusing a nice perk/professional tool/etc. How can we make sure that everyone behaves professionally at a PROFESSIONAL conference?

It just reminds me of a candy trade show they have. Only people in the profession are allowed to attend to see the latest wares from the makers. While I think it would be really neat to go, I can see why they only allow professionals. If they allowed the public to attend for a fee, someone would GO WILD and/or bring tons of kids and it would turn into a FREE CANDY SHOW!!. With the rising price of books, I can see how the message of &quot;Free books!&quot; could overwhelm what the conference is supposed to be about. It is a professional conference where business is done, things are learned and publishers have a chance to reach out to lots of library staff. While my vote isn&#039;t to bar all from going, I think a &quot;non-professional&quot; day would allow others to attend and even allow publishers to market things specifically towards the general public, including bloggers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what do you hope to accomplish? Yes she&#8217;s an adult, but do you think shaming her, sending people to her page to post rude comments makes us look good as professionals? A few bad apples being rude can paint all of us as bullies, just as her actions might have unfairly label &#8220;all bloggers&#8221; as book horders. Just because she might have made a poor decision, I&#8217;m sure the kerfuffle has already caused her to wish she hadn&#8217;t. Her post brought the issue to light, now let&#8217;s move away from acting like butthurt librarians and bullies and deal with the issue at hand: some people (both ALA members/Librarians/nonbrarians) are abusing a nice perk/professional tool/etc. How can we make sure that everyone behaves professionally at a PROFESSIONAL conference?</p>
<p>It just reminds me of a candy trade show they have. Only people in the profession are allowed to attend to see the latest wares from the makers. While I think it would be really neat to go, I can see why they only allow professionals. If they allowed the public to attend for a fee, someone would GO WILD and/or bring tons of kids and it would turn into a FREE CANDY SHOW!!. With the rising price of books, I can see how the message of &#8220;Free books!&#8221; could overwhelm what the conference is supposed to be about. It is a professional conference where business is done, things are learned and publishers have a chance to reach out to lots of library staff. While my vote isn&#8217;t to bar all from going, I think a &#8220;non-professional&#8221; day would allow others to attend and even allow publishers to market things specifically towards the general public, including bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: J Shore (@7shores)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the Record: I emailed Lost Lola on Thursday morning (06/28) via her blog&#039;s advertized gmail account to ask if she knew what was going on / being said on Twitter. I provided the resources for Lola to get involved in the conversation if she desired. I did not receive a response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Record: I emailed Lost Lola on Thursday morning (06/28) via her blog&#8217;s advertized gmail account to ask if she knew what was going on / being said on Twitter. I provided the resources for Lola to get involved in the conversation if she desired. I did not receive a response.</p>
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		<title>By: J Shore (@7shores)</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Shore (@7shores)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really??? The video is off YouTube so it never happened. 

I think she will remain responsible for her actions. She&#039;s an adult. She said on video that she knew she was behaving badly, yet she did it anyway. I don&#039;t plan to put her in stocks on the public square, but I also don&#039;t think her name should be expunged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really??? The video is off YouTube so it never happened. </p>
<p>I think she will remain responsible for her actions. She&#8217;s an adult. She said on video that she knew she was behaving badly, yet she did it anyway. I don&#8217;t plan to put her in stocks on the public square, but I also don&#8217;t think her name should be expunged.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6899</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would hope that they would spell better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope that they would spell better.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned Librarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Andy. I was sad when I saw those two comments too. I would have thought we (I&#039;m assuming that &#039;librarians&#039; posted those things) could behave better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andy. I was sad when I saw those two comments too. I would have thought we (I&#8217;m assuming that &#8216;librarians&#8217; posted those things) could behave better.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://agnosticmaybe.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/raiders-of-the-conference-arc/#comment-6897</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 21:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In accepting your position that ARCs are a professional tool, then they do need a better system of distribution. This kind of madcap &#039;first come, first serve&#039; model is pretty 20th century when there are possibly better 21st century models.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In accepting your position that ARCs are a professional tool, then they do need a better system of distribution. This kind of madcap &#8216;first come, first serve&#8217; model is pretty 20th century when there are possibly better 21st century models.</p>
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