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	<title>Comments on: One Two Three, One Two Three, One Two Three&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Waterloo was a doctoral level public finance class I was required to take for educational management certification program. It might as well as been in Chinese. What I took away from it is that we all need to dive into some activity where we are completely over our heads at least once as adults to reconnect with the sheer terror of feeling incompetent, inadequate, and even stupid from a beginning learner&#039;s point of view. I didn&#039;t learn much in the class but learned a major life lesson from the class, and the experience has made me a more more patient, sympathic and responsive teacher and librarian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Waterloo was a doctoral level public finance class I was required to take for educational management certification program. It might as well as been in Chinese. What I took away from it is that we all need to dive into some activity where we are completely over our heads at least once as adults to reconnect with the sheer terror of feeling incompetent, inadequate, and even stupid from a beginning learner&#8217;s point of view. I didn&#8217;t learn much in the class but learned a major life lesson from the class, and the experience has made me a more more patient, sympathic and responsive teacher and librarian.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting, Nancya. I appreciate the comment and how it brings learning styles into the equation. I&#039;ll have to consider it as I continue to teach computer classes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, Nancya. I appreciate the comment and how it brings learning styles into the equation. I&#8217;ll have to consider it as I continue to teach computer classes.</p>
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		<title>By: nancya</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I understand that one of your points was that the experience with dance helped you to be more understanding of what some students experience in your classes, (which is a good thing), but what struck me was the idea that you are perpetuating of some people being a natural and some are not.  While it may be true that some people have an affinity for certain types of skills and experiences, for most people there is a learning curve involved in learning new things.  And how we have been taught to experience learning new things, especially things that are unfamiliar or that we don’t have any aptitude or affinity for is often based on how we have been taught to respond to difficulties and discomfort.  This came to mind as there was just a very interesting piece on NPR about the difference between east and west approaches to this learning.   Struggle For Smarts? How Eastern and Western Cultures Tackle Learning  http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/11/12/164793058/struggle-for-smarts-how-eastern-and-western-cultures-tackle-learning

In the article the author identifies how for many of us in the west, we see any struggle with learning as a sign of weakness or a lack of intelligence; whereas in Japan they see struggle as an opportunity and this makes all the difference.  Many of us who teach have seen how our students struggle and give up, because they see it as a sign of failure or a basic inability to learn.  They often wrongly identify successful students as those who are smarter, better, or luckier – some innate quality that they are lacking. They see learning as a result of outside forces rather than from their own effort or perseverance.   What that means for teachers is that we need to emphasize the same message you received about the dancing:  start off small, build on what you learn, and hang in there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I understand that one of your points was that the experience with dance helped you to be more understanding of what some students experience in your classes, (which is a good thing), but what struck me was the idea that you are perpetuating of some people being a natural and some are not.  While it may be true that some people have an affinity for certain types of skills and experiences, for most people there is a learning curve involved in learning new things.  And how we have been taught to experience learning new things, especially things that are unfamiliar or that we don’t have any aptitude or affinity for is often based on how we have been taught to respond to difficulties and discomfort.  This came to mind as there was just a very interesting piece on NPR about the difference between east and west approaches to this learning.   Struggle For Smarts? How Eastern and Western Cultures Tackle Learning  <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/11/12/164793058/struggle-for-smarts-how-eastern-and-western-cultures-tackle-learning" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/11/12/164793058/struggle-for-smarts-how-eastern-and-western-cultures-tackle-learning</a></p>
<p>In the article the author identifies how for many of us in the west, we see any struggle with learning as a sign of weakness or a lack of intelligence; whereas in Japan they see struggle as an opportunity and this makes all the difference.  Many of us who teach have seen how our students struggle and give up, because they see it as a sign of failure or a basic inability to learn.  They often wrongly identify successful students as those who are smarter, better, or luckier – some innate quality that they are lacking. They see learning as a result of outside forces rather than from their own effort or perseverance.   What that means for teachers is that we need to emphasize the same message you received about the dancing:  start off small, build on what you learn, and hang in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Anne for the comment. I think this is the first skill in a long time that I&#039;ve encountered that I didn&#039;t just pick up naturally. So now I have to commit to working on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anne for the comment. I think this is the first skill in a long time that I&#8217;ve encountered that I didn&#8217;t just pick up naturally. So now I have to commit to working on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne McCarthy Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne McCarthy Kennedy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this post!  First of all, it gave me flashbacks to adolescence when I had to take several years of ballroom dancing lessons followed by a couple years of monthly dances and ultimately - lucky me - a debutante ball!!  The last was fun, but the previous years were torturous as not only did I have no rhythm but was pretty dorky otherwise as well. A happy fast forward - a few years ago I started Zumba classes &amp; I love it - still no rhythm but having fun.
More importantly, this does indeed &quot;hit the heart of the matter&quot; in reminding us both to be aware of other folks&#039; knots and to persevere through our own.
Thanks, Andy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post!  First of all, it gave me flashbacks to adolescence when I had to take several years of ballroom dancing lessons followed by a couple years of monthly dances and ultimately &#8211; lucky me &#8211; a debutante ball!!  The last was fun, but the previous years were torturous as not only did I have no rhythm but was pretty dorky otherwise as well. A happy fast forward &#8211; a few years ago I started Zumba classes &amp; I love it &#8211; still no rhythm but having fun.<br />
More importantly, this does indeed &#8220;hit the heart of the matter&#8221; in reminding us both to be aware of other folks&#8217; knots and to persevere through our own.<br />
Thanks, Andy!</p>
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